ESA: E3 Changing, No Large Show Floor - Kotaku Comments

ESA: E3 Changing, No Large Show Floor

MikeA — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:44:34 MDT

If I didn't go to E3 I wouldn't have gotten a neat little golden ticket that enabled me to join this site ^^

MikeA

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JohnnyLA — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:03:59 MDT

"The other crucial element is that the development teams don't have to worry about an E3 build. Just let them worry about making the final game, not some demo level."

Absolutely! This is great news! I was wondering when this will finally have to be scaled back. It should of happened sooner.

JohnnyLA

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Jason Preston — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:07:10 MDT

To be honest I'm neither overly surprised about the downsize nor overly upset about it. In a lot of ways E3 was too much - from a gamers perspective. It was an overblown hype machine and they knew it.

Both Ethan and I posted our complete thoughts about it on Flicker Gaming (click my name), but that's the essence.

Jason Preston

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AsaD — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:28:22 MDT

What's wrong with them do they want blood too, They want it to be a black tie event and Hors d'Oeuvres and Champagne Long gown's Diamonds on every dame and a fat waller in every man's pokcet

AsaD

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fungus amungus — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:11:33 MDT

E3 is dead. Long live E3.

Why is everyone so sad about this? This is the best news ever. E3 has been a farce for a few years now, filled with fanboys who clog up the aisles as they run around trying to get schwag. A four-hour wait to play on the Wii is a joke, a sign that too many non-industry types had gotten in.

I've covered the event three times and I can say that all the flash and dazzle just makes it that much harder to get the information out. Why should journalists have to wait for some rude kid to get his own impressions of a game? If anything, this should improve the coverage that the individual games can get.

The other crucial element is that the development teams don't have to worry about an E3 build. Just let them worry about making the final game, not some demo level.

Don't cry about the carnival being over. It was overblown anyway.

fungus amungus

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ROBOGriff — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:57:39 MDT

This is just like the drinking age. Right before I can participate, it changes on me!

ROBOGriff

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Adam In Texas — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:41:11 MDT

Gotcha, crecente.

Thanks.

Adam In Texas

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theokester — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:40:46 MDT

I guess they figure real gamers can't wander the entire conference center without passing out from exhaustion...and when combined with the new Wii controller, they were probably fearful of heart attacks from overexertion.

theokester

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Woodwater — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:36:04 MDT

I don't understand the logic behind this.

Are they trying to make it more credible?
Are they trying to give video games another image?

Or maybe someone is loosing money off the old formula. Now that I think of it. It's gotta be something concerning money. It always is.

Woodwater

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Frodo — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:24:16 MDT

Sony hit the ESA in its weakpoint for massive damage.

Frodo

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cYcO_pLuXxEl — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:05:30 MDT

Oh... Now this is THE REAL END of the Booth Babes...

And the only place where we can see Miyamoto crossdressed as Link, flirting during Nintendogs presentation... and of course...THE REGGIE DANCE!...

And what about RIIIIIIIIIGDE RACERRRRRR

Those were the moments that made E3 so big.

Oh, wait a second, there were games too? Really?

cYcO_pLuXxEl

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Maj1013 — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:00:48 MDT

Wow. If Lowenstein spun any harder, he'd drill himself right into the ground.

Maj1013

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Munkey_Funk — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:54:16 MDT

My boss just asked me why I am crying like a little girl...then he stuck his lolipop in my hair.

Munkey_Funk

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Feelz Good — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:53:40 MDT

Mascott-That really is the funniest part of the whole thing. When the average game cost 20+ million to develop how is saving 2 million gonna help anyone?

Feelz Good

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Mascott — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:46:47 MDT

"This will be better. Companies can spend more money on game development instead of the 2 million we charge for 4 feet for floor space"-ESA

Mascott

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KaneRobot — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:45:25 MDT

Ok, so E3 gets broken into three seperate shows, one for each of the big 3 (ie, X06 for Microsoft), while the actual E3 show has all three present in a smaller fashion along with a few stragglers. Doesn't bother me a bit.

It'll just place more emphasis on the individual shows and cut down on the annoying-ass fanboyism over which console "won" the one big show of the year.

KaneRobot

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dtrain — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:45:18 MDT

Well, that was the problem, Altima. Unless you're a dev, you *weren't* supposed to be able to play it there. And if you were, you'd come back from E3 every year bitching about how there was no opportunity to play or even see the games, and too many opportunities to have your ears blown out and boobs shaken in your face.

Don't get me wrong...I'm all about "Up with Boobs!" during every other time of year, but E3 either isn't the place for free inflatable crap and cosplayers or it isn't the place to try to have meetings.

This step is the right one. I'm sure if the ESA is out of the business of fan conventions, someone else will step in to give you the chance to wait in long lines to play games and get inflatable crap. But thank goodness, I won't have to be crunching to get a build done for that.

dtrain

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Brian Crecente — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:45:11 MDT

Adam, when I say mainstream journalists I don't mean sites like Kotaku. I mean major news stations and newspapers. I mean CNN, ABC, CBS, New York Times, AP, Reuters, Rocky Mountain News, Wall Street Journal.

I should have linked to my post from earlier today where I said this isn't really going to effect the game sites, blogs or game mags nearly as much as it will the rest. The main reason I'm worried is because my fulltime job is covering games for the Rocky Mountain News and this could have a huge impact on how I am able to do that job.

Brian Crecente

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spyVspy — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:38:44 MDT

"I blame sony"

SONY pulled out? Just because of all that video of everybody avoiding SONY to line up for the Wii demo? They got all cranky over that little episode?

spyVspy

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Altima NEO — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:27:20 MDT

Thats just retarded. Now someone else will have to make a mega show. How else are we supposed to leanr about next gen stuff and be able to play it.

Altima NEO

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DaveKap — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:25:26 MDT

I blame Sony.

^ That was a joke. I hope you understood it and laughed. :P

DaveKap

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defiantman21 — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:23:59 MDT

New E3 my ass....this just blows

defiantman21

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amog — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:12:40 MDT

Seems like I'm the only person in the world that's happy about this. To most people who can't make it to E3, this just means you're going to get information with a lot less drama and delay. For people who are able to go, it'll mean a lot less work and a lot less stress. After a few years working in the industry, E3 just stresses me out. There's so much pressure attached to it, I'm glad it's gone. If it means that companies take the money they spend on their E3 booths to fly journalists out to their small press events, amen to that - I never want to work on E3-related projects again in my life.

amog

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Rayzak — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:12:20 MDT

But what will happen to all the crazy crap in Kentia hall?

Rayzak

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Feelz Good — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:04:52 MDT

Seriously, is Sony now running ESA, because this is just stupidity. I love how they're saying there are other big game conventions to go to, so there's no need for a huge E3. Yeah, but there isn't one in the US, you are the gaming convention for the States.

Feelz Good

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Adam In Texas — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:03:08 MDT

First you say, "Worse still, Lowenstein seems to be saying that the industry
and those covering will have to rely on other events to gather and disseminate
information."

Which seems OK. It sounds like he is saying this isn't the place to gather gaming news.

Then you say, "If E307 doesn't impress I doubt many mainstream journalists will return."

Which is what it sounds like Lowenstein wants.

What exactly is a mainstream journalist in the video gaming sense?
You doubt many mainstream journalists will return to E3? What are
we talking here? CNN, MSNB, FOX NEWS? Or are we talking about a
gaming blog like Kotaku? Is Kotaku full of mainstream journalists?
Aren't there enough shows done independently by the game companies
themselves that cover what they want these video game news sites to
see? The past three or so years it seems like one special report on all of
these gaming websites has been what free crap they got from all of the booths.
That's hard hitting stuff right there.

Adam In Texas

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Frodo — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:01:42 MDT

This probably won't change things too much. Devs are still going to spend a butt-ton on money for parties during the watered down show in an effort to keep people interested. Just how for E3 2006 they said they were going to be stricter with application requirements and still let register jockeys in.

Frodo

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Gary — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:58:49 MDT

The real loss is not being able to see all of games and products in side-by-side comparisons.

The beauty of the event was that once a year ever company had toput up or shut up(not that there wasn't plenty of smoke 'n mirrors). Now there will be very little reason for any company to blow the minds of everyone who wants to see what is next.

Gary

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Avid X. — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:58:34 MDT

I mean its just sad, you can compare this to the death of christmas.

Avid X.

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WhiskeyJak — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:49:41 MDT

Well this certainly suck, but it just make business sense. As an exemple, some companies have to hire people full-time just to coordinate the event. While nobody will cry over a major publisher losing one salary worth of money, it is quite easy to see why they may not see the event as profitable.

On a side note, I was quite depressed by the coverage over at Next-Gen.biz, apparently, the editor was more concerned about protecting his right to the "scoop" over "Some gullible journalists" and the so-called exactitude of his information than simply reporting said information to the readers. Apparently, all the fuss is about using the sentence "End of E3" or "Evolution of E3. Pitiful.

WhiskeyJak

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JB4GDI — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:49:11 MDT

Great. First Japan decides to make stuff you can only import to get (special consoles, special bundles, awesome video games, etc...). Then the biggest video game event of the year leaves the US, and the next closest thing we have is TGS or the Leipzig convention (PAX isn't there yet). I think the next horrible thing that will happen to US gamers is every major 3rd party studio here gets bought out by EA.

JB4GDI

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Robotube — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:47:20 MDT

Why is it when spokespeople drop a bomb with disappointing news, they always wrap it up with a crazy, unrealistic lie, like "Everyone is stoked about this new E3!"

How can anyone be 'energized' about this? This is reminiscient of so many "you're going to LOVE your new higher property tax!" speeches.

Robotube